Couples Therapy

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Open your hearts and loosen your butts! On Couples Therapy, real life couple and real life comedians Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman gab with their favorite actors and comics about their romantic pasts, presents and futures and answer YOUR relaysh Qs with all the wisdom two unlicensed entertainers can possibly contain!


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  • C.D.R. Poet
    Best pod
    I love when they say "and we're back!" at the same time.
  • tilpickles
    HERE FOR THE VERONA TRUTHING
    No one else out there is telling the truth about Shakespeare. 14/10 no notes.
  • Dork Queen
    Stomp on these widows
    This where I get my local slider news šŸ•·ļø best pod that ever dared to pod šŸ„³šŸ„³šŸ„³šŸ„³
  • shannonk24
    Healing and Hilarious!!!!!
    A podcast that feels good and makes me laugh out LOUD!
  • Mallovely
    Love these two!
    Listening to Naomi and Andy talk with their guests and answer listener questions is so comforting to me.
  • Simply Harry
    Edgar Allan Pole
    I cannot stop laughing!
  • andotherleafygreens
    A tale of two hosts
    Long-time listener, first-time reviewer. Andy is dead weight on this show and is so pedantic, always mentioning whatā€™s going on ā€œin his headā€ as if itā€™s uncharted territory but ends up being some Three Stooges-esque slapstick bit. I find myself actually saying aloud: shut. up. Apparently heā€™s a good writer? Whatever scripts heā€™s selling arenā€™t translating over the airwaves. The recent one with James Adomian got Andy to put his foot in his mouth a couple times which was a relief. Naomi, on the other hand, is perceptive, intelligent, razor-witted, compassionate, and hilarious. Been following her for several years. Theyā€™ve been leaning into this dynamic of Andy giving dumb advice, but it doesnā€™t add levity. Naomiā€™s banter and keen sense with the guests and insight with listener questions carries the show and is why I still listen.
  • Grumping
    Consistently amazing
    Iā€™ve been listening for years and find so much relief, engagement, laughter, tears, and learning. I love how inclusive they are in their guest appearances and how the questions are answered in genuine ways. I try never to miss an episode, unlike most podcasts where I listen for a while but then drop off. This just addresses all the real parts of life and acknowledges the (still continuing!) pandemmy and end of the world with compassion and humor. Would it be possible to invite Mohanad Elshieky? If youā€™ve had him on and I missed it, apologies, but his bits and random little videos are *chefā€™s kiss* delicious and Iā€™d love to get to know his story a bit more!
  • G-Stets
    Best of the best!
    Gosh darn are these two the sweetest, most genuine podcast hosts out there šŸ„°šŸ™ŒšŸ» thanks for making me smile (and often learn!) every week, Naomi and Andy!! Okay, bad date stories, luckily (or not?) I have a ton. Hereā€™s a recent one: I matched with a guy on Tinder and we planned to meet up at a certain time for a walk along one of the walking paths in our area. A few hours before, I was notified that a meeting was being pushed back, so I messaged him to ask if we could meet a bit later (i.e. 6:30 PM instead of 6 PM). He didnā€™t respond ā€” until he messaged me at 5:25 PM to tell me he was ā€œon his way.ā€ I quickly reminded him of my message from 4 hours or so prior, but I donā€™t know (and canā€™t confirm) if he ever read it, becauseā€¦ I get to the meet up point at 6:30 PM, and just see him pacing back and forth in front of that spot. Has he been there since 6 ā€” or even earlier? Who knows! But not a great start. He then greets me with a hug, but is as stiff as a board, which doesnā€™t work when thereā€™s a good foot of height difference between you two. We then start our walk, and this man is talking a mileeee a minute, to the point that Iā€™m wondering (a) is he just really nervous, or (b) does he really not know how to have a conversation with another person? Things get a little calmer as we continue, he seems to calm down a bit, and then, he asks me a fairly probing question ā€” ā€œso what do you think about kids?ā€ I am taken aback, but tell him, my mom had me later on (37) and her mom had her later on (41), so I have time (31). He immediately shoots back, ā€œright, and you can always freeze your eggs! šŸ³ā€ Yes, thank you kind stranger for the reminder on my bodily autonomy šŸ«£šŸ˜µā€šŸ’« Soon thereafter, he asks what Iā€™ve been experiencing with the apps, and I honestly tell him that I hadnā€™t been back on them for long (maybe a month at that point), but that itā€™s just the same old, same old ā€” talking to people, seeing what clicks. I returned the question to him, and he said: ā€œWell, I go on 2-4 dates with these great girls, and then they just ghost šŸ‘» me, I donā€™t know why!ā€ Well, buddy, how do you think this date is going?! šŸ«¤šŸ«  I then ask, since obviously this isnā€™t going anywhere, about what happened in his last serious relationship, and he said that his girlfriend said they had problems, but they were living together, traveling a ton, and ā€œall of the sudden she left without reason!ā€ Turns out, that had only been 8 months prior ā€” UM BUDDYā€¦ Anyway, I got out of there as soon as I could with a lame excuse, and in walking me to my bike (after another weird hug!!!), he said, ā€œWell just donā€™t ghost me, okay?! šŸ¤Ŗā€ Yeah, these streets are ROUGH you guys
  • cat mom 666
    Worst Winter Date
    Couples therapy is like my comfort blanket that makes me laugh. 5 stars ALWAYS. Back in 2017 I went on a second date with a girl from bumble. During a snow storm. I went from Manhattan to Brooklyn to hang out with this girl at her apartment. We have a drink, watch TV, and then start hooking up (sorry). Right in the middle ofā€¦ everythingā€¦ she gets a weird look on her face. When I ask whatā€™s wrong she tells me sheā€™s IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE. So what did I do? Well, I asked if she wanted her shirt back, and then I STAYED and talked her through her feelings for TWO HOURS. Around 1am I walked back to the subway IN A SNOW STORM and went home. Oh, and this was my first sexual experience. Fun, right??? Help!
  • Cdnewcomer
    Love you two! (dating horror story involving opera singers)
    In the years before Grindr and Scruff, I met some guy off of manhunt. I shouldā€™ve known it was a bad idea to meet him when I walked up and he lived above a preschool. It was after hours and the swing blowing in the breeze making shadows across the yard was truly chilling. This man looked nothing like his photos. He was nice enough although he looked as if he lived in an apartment inherited from an old woman. I went in and we had a glass or two of wine and then he asked if we could watch a movie. We watched matchpoint which has opera in a lot of in itā€™s soundtrack. We had mentioned that both of us were singers. He periodically paused the movie to sing. He did not sound very good even though he claimed to have gone to Juilliard. Finally a song I knew came on so I paused and I sang and he didnā€™t compliment me and thatā€™s when I finally decided to leave. Love you two!!
  • Avidscifan
    Awesome!!!!
    You two wake me up at work. Youā€™re my new favorite couple (donā€™t tell my bff since jr. high). I love that you have furrbabies. Give a hug to Squee and Mabel for me! Thank you for the verbal shot of caffeine during the work week.āœØāœØāœØ And I live for Squee Stories as this childless cat lady is also a loving mom of two crazy furrballs with crazy antics!šŸ©·šŸ¾šŸ©·
  • Mollimus55225
    Love x 1000
    My favorite podcast by far. Naomi and Andy are the best.
  • Annnnnnnnaaaaa
    Making my commute a breeze
    Listen to the pod and Patche(?sp? Patreon is gold) on my way to work and love it for the lols and the serious discussions.
  • Brooklynchick
    Top 3 favorite podcast
    (I canā€™t bear to be on the apps so I donā€™t have any horror stories) This podcast is consistently funny as heck. Introduces me to new comedians, never problematic, always very honest and real. Animal lovers, and gets people to go DEEP for real. I love this podcast!!!
  • ItsAMeerkat
    Great, heartfelt, relatable advice!
    Love your approach to peopleā€™s difficult relationship advice. Helped me during a rough but loving relationship. Worst first date: I live in a very convienient street, lots of bars and food so I always have dates meet me in my neighborhood in case I need a quick escape. Never thought I would need to. I went on a date with a white man who owned his own painting business (he put liberal in his dating app). During the date politics came up and he said he doesnā€™t follow politics because it doesnā€™t effect him or his family. I explained that as a Mexican woman, child of immigrants in this country, EVERYTHING about politics effects my life. He told me he was a veteran served for two years (this was not in his profile) I asked ā€œIraq, Afghanistan?ā€ No, this American born man went on to explain that he joined the IFD because he felt it was his duty to protect his ancestors landā€¦ I was uncomfortable. He then tried to tell me a ā€œfunnyā€ story of pranks he played on his platoon including acting emotionally unstable, picking up a grenade and pretending to unpin it. He was laughing hysterically at this! Saying ā€œtheir faces were priceless hahahaā€ I was shooketh. He went to the bathroom, I left $10 to cover my cocktail and I ran home. He messaged to ask if I left and I blocked him. Free Palestine šŸ‡µšŸ‡ø May peace
  • JustinBlover98
    Now that it isnā€™t only summer datesā€¦
    Met a guy on a dating app. Strike one: his profile pic had him with an artsy pink buzzcut, so imagine my surprise seeing a man walk up to me with a whole BOWL CUT. He rode his electric bicycle to the date, which brings us to strike two: he arrived 47 minutes late, bike battery in hand, and starts charging the battery on the table at the restaurant. Mind you, this battery is LARGE: roughly the size of 4 loaves of bread, and weā€™re sitting at a two-top. Im all for second (third..?) chances, so the date continues. Tell me why this very white man is speaking with a blaccent!!! he spends the date complaining about his office job when he really wants to become an EDM producer. The final nail in the coffin: we ultimately discover we went to the same high school and he my best friendā€™s lifelong neighbor. Heā€™s a couple years older, and used to babysit her and her friends. Back in the day he was changingmy bestieā€™s pull-ups and taking her to chuck-e-cheese. I paid for my own drink and never spoke to this man again.
  • doughts977
    Love you guys!
    I was set up with a man using a dating service so hadnā€™t met him before. When I got to the bar he told me he wanted to ā€œplay a game where we order each others drinksā€ I said that I think Iā€™d like to just order my own drinkā€¦he kept insisting asking didnā€™t I want to have fun ect finally he dropped it. I already wanted to leave. Throughout our one drink date he kept hitting me on the arm (I guess as a way to touch me?). He referred to Dave Chappell as ā€œthat black Netflix comedianā€ among many other things I wished Iā€™d saved. Other favorite bad date stories include a man in a fedora who asked me to drinks and before the date confirmed if we were eating or not to which I said maybe just appetizers and then when we got to the restaurant proceeded to order a whole chicken that I had to sit there and watch him eat (picture a Cornish hen looking thing). Also a man whose car broke down on the way to our date and asked me to pick him up..I said letā€™s just reschedule but ended up meeting him later where he told me he wants to go hunting in Africa and that he believes in ancient alien astronauts.
  • elenakalliste
    My absolute favorite podcast
    Naomi and Andy have made it unsafe to listen to podcasts while at the gym because they love to drop an unexpected punchline when I am ill prepared and likely to pull a muscle. Totally worth it every time. Truly delightful to listen to every week; guest or no guest. They clearly love and respect each other and have such fun chemistry. PS Worst summer date is August 24th, hot as balls and I had to humor by awful grandmother by being nice to her on her birthday.
  • sportsbabe1125
    Love Naomi and Andy (and Mable()
    Just listened to the Samatha Irby episode and Samantha has a new fan. Couples Therapy is like eavesdropping on a conversation at my favorite restaurant. Iā€™m laughing out loud. Glad Iā€™m listening at home or Iā€™d lose my job. Love you guys and your guests! Samatha Irby was a 100 out of 10!
  • gtytuh
    Worst Summer Dateā€¦
    You asked šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø. A couple years ago I went on a Hinge first date at the Chicago zooā€¦ adorable, right? Well, it started to go sideways when it was over 90 and I had 2 fun gummies he brought. I didnā€™t feel anything so I had another. Fast forward to me violently vomiting in the cafeteria bathroom, just to walk out and not be able to find him anywhere. After a brief panic attack, he called to let me know he got the car and is pulling around. We go back to his place (because I absolutely cannot drive and live 2 hours away). While Iā€™m laying there recovering, I notice something weird about his pant legā€¦ BRO HAD ON AN ANKLE MONITOR!! Come to find out he was on bond for DV. I was extremely nice until I was healthy enough to leave and then promptly cut things off (which he started to cry about). Moral of the story: never forget to do an initial background check & save the zoo for a cooler day.
  • OctopusDoc
    Favorite Podcast!
    I find this podcast singularly hilarious, resonant and comforting. Thank you Andy and Naomi!
  • AhDeeAh
    Dating the KING OF DELTA ...on accident
    (She/her) Summer date. Fresh outta Texas in my late 20s. I'm living in Harlem. 2011. Pre-apps (well pre-safe apps that didn't leave u murderer after a meal). Middle of the week, I'm at a cute cake shop, the one opposite the building where New Jack City was set (gotta love NYC). Sweltering heat outside. A biker gang of rolls in. Leather jackets and all. In this heat. Mkay. One guy, very handsome. Muscles and all that. Standing behind me. I spark up a conversation because he's wearing and Nigerian hat. One of those felt ones that looks like an upside bowl. Think yamaka but the sides are more rectangular and raised. Anyways a red hat is for chiefs. So I ask him boldly "Why are you wearing a chiefs hat ... when you aren't a chief". Confrontational flirtation at its best. And it worked. He denied being a chief and said the hat was more of a brown color. Yada yada yada. We end up going on a dinner date that weekend in Harlem. He shows up in his black leather AND African fabric ties around his jeans AND a gold beaded African head dress crown AND a beaded white African "chief-man clutch" (the bag's implication being that he's super important and caring wads of cash in it.) Why was I even surprised. He then proceeds, over falafel and hummus, to explain to me that he is the CROWN PRICE OF DELTA (an region in Nigeria). Meanwhile he fully knows that I am Nigeria and familiar with the area. So, yeh, sideye and eyeroll. He goes on and on and on as if his royal status made him super wealthy. As loud and as he was boasting his royal status, I knew that either he 1) was telling the truth but not wealthy (therefore big whoop) or 2) lying out of his beeep. Anyways, I'm fully entertained until the insults start. He also tells me he's a boxer and is quite competitive and I should google him (2011 pre Instagram and Twitter. Basic Facebook). I google him and see he does box. And makes very rudimentary YouTube videos. I tell him he can google me also. He scoffs and says "googling nobodies is a waste of time. You are not famous". Yeh. Mkay. (Neither I'm not famous nor delusional, yes. But really my dude!) I go to the bathroom and call my friend and dish. She thinks I'm just "being so picky and want to be forever single". I knew I would be forever taunted at future brunches unless I could provide receipts. So we plan to met after dinner at a desert cafe on the other side of Harlem. He's more than willing to continue the date because, I mean, he loves talking about himself and loves an audience. Thirty odd min later, my friend is at the cafe with four other people! (Her boyfriend, his friend, and two other of her female friends). We all cozy up at a table. And surprisingly my friends BF knew my date as a boxer. As a prince.... not so much. My date proceeds to highjack the table conversation and continues to tell everyone how great he is etc etc. And launches into how basic human beings we are and royalty this royalty that. Meanwhile everyone at the table is Nigerian. Yeh. And as we are trying to refute his lofty claims he just gets more emboldened with delusion upon delusion. I forget how the date ended but it ended with leaving with him seperate from the group (sigh ... ) walking me to near but not in front of my Harlem apt. And he pulls me into a phone booth (it's 2011) that smells like stale urine. And proceeds to kiss me and grope on me. Very yuck. Very gross. I push him away and force a smile then scuttle off into the night never to see him again. Gross. But ... if you search him on YouTube, the dude is consistent making videos of him princely and royal status with nothing really tangible to show for it. God bless. Long live the PRINCE. It's rough out in these dating streets!
  • Word mom rocks
    My mission is to make Naomi and Andy my besties
    When I heard Naomi and Andy on Sam Sandersā€™s (love him!) October podcast Into It, I felt an immediate friendship with them. Naomi and Andy remind me so much of great people youā€™d love to hang out with over spirits, snacks, and general get-togethers for no other reason other than you enjoy each otherā€™s company. That and they have great snacks. And spirits. And they love their furbabies. Their honest and introspective conversations with new and long-time friends always has me nodding and answering as if Iā€™m part of the conversation. (Which I would love to be so if yā€™all are interested in talking to a former trauma nurse turned saucy romance author, who also has fur-babies and kids, please contact me. :) ) Always fun and enlightening, Naomi and Andy are a weekly audible treat for anyone who loves to laugh and needs a bit more joy in their lives. PS-I was totally serious about coming on the show. :)
  • wamor1995
    Contest Review
    Great Show!! Worst date on one warm night: We went to get ice cream. Iā€™m a they/he gay. He was a he/him gay. He questioned but did not let me explain my gender identity then proceeded to talk about his ex who he called crazy. While we are ice cream, we had to sit in his Tesla so that its software could update. And then after an half hour of waiting on Myrtle Ave in the Tesla we briefly talked when he explained more about his ex and how his friend was on a date with a hot religious woman. We then parted ways but not before he complimented me for opening the Teslaā€™s door the first time and then asked if Iā€™m a top or bottom.
  • Tiny1983!
    Always funny even when life is hard.
    Hilarious takes on life, love, and living in the hellscape. Thanks Naomi & Andy (guests and pets)
  • In need of calm
    Bring back I love a lifetime movie pod
    As a forever Andy & Naomi fan (and current NYC resident) I went and supported Megan Gailey at Union Hall. I was blown away by her killer jokes and professionalism. Peak post-sorority life realness. What a performance! Thank you Naomi, for bringing Megan into my world. Yaā€™ll were a whole mood. Bring back the Pod or maybe an HGTV show where you design (or cast) kitchen/ homes for lifetime moviesā€¦
  • pamprim
    Samantha Irby w/ Naomi & Andy šŸ™
    The episode with Samantha Irby was fantastic! It was so emotionally thought provoking. My brain cells popped & my heart expanded. Absolute perfectionā€¦ THANK YOU!
  • aclovexxx
    Love them
    I love Andy and Naomi so so much. Which might seem weird because I donā€™t know them personally. But they are the best dynamic duo ever?? I love their pets too!!
  • atypicalgirl328
    Love Naomi and Andy!!
    Iā€™ve listened to every episode. This show is a soothing mental balm and a hilarious delight. The guests are great, the host questions are thoughtful and you always learn something. Highly recommended.
  • Just another trans guy
    Andy is pathetic
    Love Naomi but Andy is pathetic. He doesnā€™t add anything to the conversation and only takes away from the podcast. He only adds despair and wallowing in his own misery without a hint of redemption. His constant lamentations are a dreary monologue that only deepens his isolation. Listening to him is an exercise in enduring relentless sorrow, leaving you drained. Love Naomi and would love to hear a podcast with her and someone else.
  • PeterPan030303
    At least the garnish was tasty
    My cousinā€™s wedding was - unfortunately one of the strangest experiences I have had. The day of the rehearsal dinner, Lightning struck a tree directly beside the venue. This should have been our first sign that something was amiss, but alas, we ignored it. During the ceremony, the bride was visibly shaking. The father of the groom (a minister, who, incidentally, was NOT officiating the ceremony, but simply felt called to stand up and speak during it) brought out a wooden triangle visual aid to explain how the bride and groom must grow closer to God at the same rate if they want to grow closer to each other. This went on for an uncomfortably long time. At the reception, there was absolutely no dancing (though, weirdly, there was a DJ). The only food that my sister - a lifelong vegetarian-could eat was the garnish. And to cap off the evening, another tree was struck by lighting directly outside the reception hall, a separate venue and on a different day, from the prior lightning strike.
  • Chi b
    A fun gem
    Please keep doing this podcast! It helps me get through the work day with a smile on my face.
  • OlliePL
    Truly helping propel me through the week šŸ’–
    TYSM for this gift of a podcast! Also, Naomi I had no idea about the Interview with a Vampire podcast until you mentioned it on a previous ep, went back and listened and was immediately obsessed!! The guests you brought on were incredible! I canā€™t wait to hear your thoughts on season 2 in whatever form they take! Also side note-I work in the woods and frequently listen to this podcast from my tent (sometimes when Iā€™m having anxiety about being in the woods šŸ˜…)and itā€™s always soothing and perfect! TY!!!!
  • Qian Xiaoman
    Covid conscious sheros
    Love yā€™all so much šŸ‘‘šŸ‘‘šŸ‘‘
  • KirbiJ
    My Lifeā€™s Background SoundšŸ’•
    I love this podcast! If Andy and Naomi had a baby, it would be me. I play the pods everywhere and it feels like family. This quirky Black and award writer who teaches gives five stars!
  • Z_Robi
    LOVE THIS POD!
    Andy and Naomi are both so hilarious and thoughtful and great! I literally laugh out loud each ep. My fav podcast for sure!
  • NY state lottery
    Naomi is HILARIOUS
    Andy tends not to give serious advice to the caller and also harps a lot on the hellscape that is todayā€™s society. I agree, but can we talk about something else for once? I would follow Naomi to the end of the earth that girl is HILARIOUS
  • CaroRC6
    never enough!!!
    I never miss an episode, these two never fail to make my day. Have gained so much wisdom and insight from these two šŸ’•ā¤ļø
  • SC Germanistik
    Email your therapist goodbye
    Cancel or donā€™t schedule another session. Email: ā€œIā€™ve decided to go in another direction and wonā€™t be scheduling any further sessions. Thank you for work with me.ā€ Easy peasy donā€™t give it another thought! You donā€™t sign a term contract with a therapist. Deuces.
  • Thee Fishsticks
    Mekki Leeper
    Everything he talked about hit home. Especially the stuff about his parents. So helpful to bring these stories to light. This is why I listen. Love this show.
  • OMGLindseyMarie
    A therapistā€™s perspective on leaving your therapist
    Hi Naomi & Andy!! First, thank you for putting yourselves and your hearts (and butts) into this podcast every week and on Patreon( forever a paetch pal!). It makes me laugh, sigh, and shout back like Iā€™m gabbing with my besties who get it. Anywhoooā€¦ Iā€™m a therapist in Portland, OR and I heard Andy ask about advice on how to break up with a therapist and thought well this may be a good time for me to write a review instead of just giving 5 stars like I have before. Soā€¦Termination with a therapist is largely for the client and not really for the therapist at all (unless your therapist is making the sessions about them- red flag boos!), it can be a really lovely and connective way to have an ending that feels intentional to the work you did together, especially since life doesnā€™t often give us the kind of endings that we want or need. We go into this field knowing that we may not get to have endings with our clients. While there are countless reasons why clients leave therapy, I make sure to do my own work not to internalize the termination or why the client needs to leave therapy. I have worked with clients for years that at a certain point, need a different type of therapy, perspective or modality. Itā€™s about the best fit for the clientā€™s needs and if my clients need something different, I absolutely want them to terminate and go find what they need! All of that is to say, if you feel it would be beneficial for YOU to have a termination session with your therapist, by all means do that. If you donā€™t think it would benefit you, you can absolutely send an email. The therapistā€™s feelings are not your responsibility! šŸ˜‰šŸ’• Thanks for all you do, much love from Portland!!
  • ceelill
    Compelling
    Let go of the pressure to manage your therapistā€™s emotions. If you need closure, that is one thing. I donā€™t even think you need an email. Just donā€™t book another appointment. If she is a professional, she will understand and work her way through her own emotions. Not your problem.
  • My2Ears
    Worlds most compelling podcast
    Andy, be compelled to listen to Naomi and break up with your therapist via email. Buh-bye!
  • RevaLu
    What a lovely listen
    This podcast gives me many laughs and just enough to think about without spritzing into hopeless despair. Super love the Covid conscious discussions. It a nice reminder people do care when wearing a mask in public gets you off looks and the occasional ā€œdo you think that helpsā€ with a side eye. Love the hosts love the pod love the guests!!! Thank pals
  • chococat602
    Jay Jurden episode ā€¦.
    Hey yā€™all Love the podcast! You bring happiness & joy to my life every week. Thanks for bringing Jay Jurden back, heā€™s hilarious & makes me laugh so much. Really enjoyed the episode this week. Keep doing what you doin!!!! -D
  • AreKayGee
    Itā€™s compelling!
    Thank you, Andy and Naomi, for always brightening my day with the lolz!
  • PlanetDrawsALot
    Compelling!!
    So, so compelling.
  • theamazingcareyb
    Very Compelling
    My cheap and easy meal du jour is a pack of mi goreng ramen noodles with a fried egg on top.
  • YogaWithKari
    Compelling ā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļø
    Go-to easy and delicious vegetarian meal: frozen cheese ravioli + frozen peas + 1/4 c water - microwave for 6ish mins. After taking out of the microwave, add Boursin cheese (amount and flavor is your choice!)
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